"Chuck Smith says
it actually was a slightly built, long-haired Jesus freak named
Lonnie Frisbee who
brought the first ragtag fellowship of seekers to a Bible study. "The back door
opened and all these kids with long hair and bells on their jeans came in and
sat down," Chuck Smith says. "I can remember the shocked expressions on the
faces of the other people." Chuck Smith calls Lonnie Frisbee the first
neoevangelist of the Jesus
movement." - Charisma magazine
Pentecostalist and self-described "seeing prophet" and
mystic, packed Chuck Smith's
fellowship with so many hippies that a large circus tent had to be pitched on a
10-acre plot of land where Calvary
Chapel's present facility is located in Costa Mesa.
Chuck Smith is
struck by Lonnie Frisbee's charisma, "I was not at all prepared for the
compassion that this young man would radiate." Lonnie Frisbee sparked Chuck
"When the Lord called me, I was going into the
desert and I was taking all my clothes off and I was going ' Lord if You're
really real, reveal Yourself to me!' And one afternoon, the whole atmosphere of
this canyon I was in started to tingle and get
light and started to change and I was
going 'Uh-oh!' I didn't want to be there!" - Lonnie Frisbee
Frisbee's religious career began with a pilgrimage of friends to Tahquitz
Canyon outside Palm Springs.
"So we drove out to Tahquitz Falls and we
hiked up - he wanted to go to the very top falls. And once he got there, he
opened his back pack and he spread out - and he had
LSD, and he had marijuana,
and he had all of his oil paints and he had togas, and he told us to put on
togas, so we did. And he proceeded to paint an image of Jesus on the rocks, a
full-sized image of Jesus on the rock. Then he pulled out his Bible and he got
into a kinda yoga position and he says 'We're gonna read the Bible now.' He was
reading about John the Baptist and how John the Baptist baptized and he
baptized us up at Tahquitz Falls." - Judy Meston
Kathryn Johanna Kuhlman was
born-again at the
age of fourteen in the Methodist Church of
Concordia, began preaching at the age of fifteen.
Kathryn Johanna Kuhlman was an adulteress, lived a flamboyant lifestyle -
expensive clothes, precious jewels,
luxury hotels and first-class
travel - while her "Healing Revival"
employees worked at starvation wages.
Saint Teresa mimiced her.
Kathryn Johanna Kuhlman had a weekly television program in the 1960s
and 1970s which aired nationally titled I Believe In Miracles.
Kathryn Johanna Kuhlman introduced slain
in the spirit.
Kathryn Johanna Kuhlman took the phrase
slain in the spirit and turned it on its head
and made it a mind blowing
experience rather than the
original connotation which was ego death.
Lonnie Frisbee interviewed by Kathryn Johanna Kuhlman.
have fixed this one particular room up. There were candles lit and everything.
The room filled up with people and we had taken some
LSD and he was reading the
Gospel of John out loud, and we're goin' through the whole gospel. And we get
to the end of it, it's the crucifixion stuff, everybody's crying, you know, and
not one person left the room. And then it was over. Lonnie was a planner of
experiences." - Connie (Frisbee) Bremer-Murray
Lonnie Frisbee mentored
neoevangelist Greg Laurie who
established Harvest fellowship.
Lonnie Frisbee's attachment to the
Pentecostalism caused some disagreement within the Chuck Smith's
congregation since Lonnie Frisbee seemed focused more on gaining converts and
manifestations" of the Holy Spirit than on teaching newer converts Biblical
Lonnie Frisbee sought out some of the stranger elements of
Pentecostalism, especially in the practices of dramatic "supernatural manifestations"
like being slain in
the spirit, bizarre
'miracles', and ecstatic utterance which Benny Hinn,
Kenneth Copeland and others
attribute to an "anointing" of the
Lonnie Frisbee moved to John Wimber's fellowship which
soon saw the Calvary Chapel fellowship as Lonnie Frisbee did; as quenchers of
manifestations" and by implication not conducive to the "supernatural power"
that Lonnie Frisbee and others were so hungry to see.
John Wimber and
Lonnie Frisbee brake with Calvary Chapel and found the Vineyard Association.
"Lonnie Frisbee asked people 25 and under to come
forward, so probably 300 or so go forward. He just says the words 'Holy Spirit,
Come'. Almost immediately, everybody just fell on the floor. They were sort of
like trees in a forest falling on each other. It wasn't a clean thing
of the kids, Ricky, when he fell to the floor, he pulled the microphone down. A
lot of them started
tongues, others were
crying. But the sound was shocking and I didn't know what to do. I stared
at this thing. I didn't know Lonnie.
John was shocked.
John was trying to
figure out what was going on. A lot of people got up and left." - Bob Fulton,
"Though little credit is given to
Lonnie Frisbee, he was influential in what the
called "Signs and
Wonders" a model of teaching that suggest that all Christians could
operate in a similar manner as Lonnie Frisbee;
that they too could
perform miracles like they'd read in the New Testament." - DiSabatino
"Most assuredly, the counterfeit transferable
Frisbee practiced was heretical and has
nothing to do with the biblical reality of the Holy Spirit. Sadly, Lonnie
Frisbee's "Christian" life is riddled with erroneous belief and what can best
be described as counterfeit signs and wonders associated with false revival and
the presence of sexual immorality." - Steve
practiced homosexuality before, during and after
his religious career.
"At the end of the marriage he told me that he
had been staying late in some gay bars." - Connie
Bremer-Murray, Lonnie Frisbee's ex-wife
"I got a telephone call one day
that this young man who was in the church here at Laguna Beach was feeling
really bad, really convicted, really
guilty and he confided in
his pastor that he had had a six-month affair with Lonnie." - Chuck Smith, Jr.
"The kingdom of Satan has stronger
demons. I just think that
homosexuality is a stronger
demon." - Bob Fulton,
"Lonnie's misfortune is he got
caught because there are a lot of Charismatic homosexual ministers right now.
I'm not saying that it's okay as long as you don't get caught. I'm saying we
need to find a way for them, find a way within the
Body of Christ to minister and
accommodate them." - Chuck Smith, Jr.
"It was many years I didn't see
Lonnie, and when I did the thing I was most impressed by was, 'cuz you're going
for the truth here, how bitter he was. Lonnie would just come in and it was
almost like a person who didn't have personal restraint. Lonnie would just go
off on how he had been used and abused and trashed. You know, kind of pathetic
in a way." - Chuck Girard
Lonnie Frisbee claimed he had been
sexually abused as a child. Lonnie Frisbee
died of AIDS.
"If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both
of them have committed an abomination." - Leviticus 20:13
the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one
another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves
the penalty of their error which was due." - Romans 1:27
"No one who
lives deeply in Christ makes a practice of sin. Those who continue to sin have
neither seen Christ nor known Christ." - 1 John 3:6
"The Bible does not
allow for both as simultaneous coexistent realities. While saints still
sin, the Bible clearly teaches that they do not
practice sin as a lifestyle." - Steve Mitchell Power
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