Frisbee Chuck Smith
claims a slightly built, long-haired Jesus freak named
brought the first ragtag fellowship of seekers to a Bible study.
back door opened and all these kids with long hair and bells on their jeans
came in and sat down." -
"I can remember the shocked
expressions on the faces of the other people when
calls Lonnie Frisbee the first
neoevangelist of the
Jesus Movement." -
hippie Charismatic Pentecostalist and self-described "seeing prophet" and
mystic, packs Chuck Smith's
fellowship with so many hippies that a large circus tent has to be pitched on a
10-acre plot of land where Calvary Chapel's present facility is located in
Chuck Smith is struck by Lonnie Frisbee's charisma, "I was
not at all prepared for the compassion that this young man would radiate."
Lonnie Frisbee sparks Chuck Smith's
Calvary Chapel revival.
the Lord called me, I was going into the desert and I was taking all my clothes
off and I was going ' Lord if You're really real, reveal Yourself to me!' And
one afternoon, the whole atmosphere of this canyon I was in started to tingle
and get light and started to change and I was going 'Uh-oh!' I didn't want to
be there!" - Lonnie Frisbee
religious career began with a pilgrimage of friends to Tahquitz Canyon outside
"So we drove out to Tahquitz Falls
and we hiked up - he wanted to go to the very top falls.
Once he got
there, he opened his back pack and spread out
oil paints and togas, and he told us to put on togas, so we did.
proceeded to paint a full-sized
image of Jesus on the rock.
Then he pulled out his Bible and he got
into a kinda yoga position.
"We're gonna read the Bible now."
began reading about John the Baptist and he baptized us up at Tahquitz Falls."
- Judy Meston
Kathryn Johanna Kuhlman was
born again at the age of
fourteen in the Methodist
Church of Concordia, began
fellowships at the age of fifteen.
Johanna Kuhlman was an adulteress, lived a
flamboyant lifestyle - expensive clothes, precious jewels,
luxury hotels and first-class
travel - while her "Healing
Revival" employees worked at starvation wages.
Saint Teresa of
Calcutta mimiced her.
Kathryn Johanna Kuhlman had a weekly television
program in the 1960s and 1970s which aired nationally titled I Believe In
Kathryn Johanna Kuhlman introduced
slain in the spirit.
Johanna Kuhlman took the phrase slain in
the spirit and turned it on its head and made it
a mind blowing
experience rather than
connotation which was ego death.
Lonnie Frisbee interviewed by Kathryn Johanna Kuhlman.
have fixed this one particular room up. There were candles lit and everything.
The room filled up with people and we had taken some
LSD and he was reading the
Gospel of John out loud, and we're goin' through the whole gospel. We get to
the end of it, it's
the crucifixion stuff, everybody's crying, you know, and not one person
left the room. And then it was over. Lonnie was a planner of experiences." -
Connie (Frisbee) Bremer-Murray
Lonnie Frisbee mentored
Laurie who established Harvest
Lonnie Frisbee's attachment to the
Pentecostalism caused some disagreement within the Chuck Smith's
Calvary Chapel congregation since
Lonnie Frisbee seemed focused more
on gaining converts and experiencing "supernatural manifestations"
than on teaching newer converts Biblical doctrine.
Lonnie Frisbee sought out some of the stranger
elements of Charismatic Pentecostalism, especially in the practices of dramatic
manifestations" like being
slain in the spirit,
bizarre 'miracles', and ecstatic
utterance which Benny Hinn,
Kenneth Copeland and
others attribute of an
"anointing" by the Holy Spirit.
of John Wimber embraces Lonnie Frisbee to heal
John Wimber and Lonnie Frisbee break with Calvary Chapel and found the Vineyard Association.
"Lonnie Frisbee asked people 25 and under to come forward, so
probably 300 or so go forward. He just says the words 'Holy Spirit, Come'. Almost
immediately, everybody just fell on the floor. They were sort of like trees in
a forest falling on each other. It wasn't a clean thing. One of the kids,
Ricky, when he fell to the floor, he pulled the microphone down. A lot of them
started Speaking in
Tongues, others were
crying. But the sound was shocking and I didn't know what to do. I stared
at this thing. I didn't know Lonnie. John was shocked. John was trying to
figure out what was going on. A lot of people got up and left." - Bob Fulton,
"Though little credit is given to Lonnie Frisbee, he
was influential in what the Vineyard
movement called "Signs and Wonders"
a model of teaching that suggest that all Christians could operate in a
similar manner as Lonnie Frisbee;
that they too
could perform miracles like they'd read in the New Testament." - DiSabatino
"Most assuredly, the counterfeit transferable
anointing Lonnie Frisbee
practiced was heretical and has nothing to
do with the biblical reality
of the Holy Spirit. Sadly, Lonnie Frisbee's "Christian" life is riddled
with erroneous belief and what can best be described as
counterfeit signs and
wonders associated with false revival and the
presence of sexual immorality." - Steve
Frisbee practiced homosexuality before, during
and after his religious career.
"At the end of the marriage he told me
that he had been staying late in some gay bars." -
Connie Bremer-Murray, Lonnie Frisbee's ex-wife
"I got a telephone call
one day that this young man who was in the church here at Laguna Beach was
feeling really bad, really convicted, really guilty and he confided in his
pastor that he had had a six-month affair with Lonnie." - Chuck Smith, Jr.
"The kingdom of Satan has stronger demons. I just think that
homosexuality is a stronger
demon." - Bob Fulton, Vineyard spokesman
"Lonnie's misfortune is he got caught because there
are a lot of Charismatic
homosexual ministers right now. I'm not saying that it's okay as long as
you don't get caught. I'm saying we need to find a way for them, find a way
within the Body of Christ to minister
and accommodate them." - Chuck Smith, Jr.
many years I didn't see Lonnie, and when I did the thing I was most impressed
by was, 'cuz you're going for the truth here, how
bitter he was. Lonnie would
just come in and it was almost like a person who didn't have personal
restraint. Lonnie would just go off on how he had been used and abused and
trashed. You know, kind of pathetic in a way." - Chuck Girard
Frisbee claimed he had been sexually abused
as a child.
Lonnie Frisbee dies of
"If a man lies with a male as he
lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination." - Leviticus
"Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman,
burned in their lust for one another,
men with men committing what is
shameful, and receiving in
themselves the penalty of their error which was due." - Romans
"No one who lives deeply in
Christ makes a practice of sin.
Those who continue to sin
have neither seen Christ nor known Christ." - 1 John 3:6
does not allow for both as
realities. While saints still sin, the Bible clearly teaches that they do
not practice sin as a lifestyle." - Steve
This web site is not a commercial web site and
is presented for educational purposes only.
This website defines a
new perspective with which to engage reality to which its author adheres. The
author feels that the falsification of reality outside personal experience has
forged a populace unable to discern propaganda from reality and that this has
been done purposefully by an international corporate cartel through their
agents who wish to foist a corrupt version of reality on the human race.
Religious intolerance occurs when any group refuses to tolerate religious
practices, religious beliefs or persons due to their religious ideology. This
web site marks the founding of a system of philosophy named The Truth of the
Way of the Lumière Infinie - a rational gnostic mystery religion based
on reason which requires no leap of faith, accepts no tithes, has no supreme
leader, no church buildings and in which each and every individual is
encouraged to develop a personal relation with the Creator and Sustainer
through the pursuit of the knowledge of reality in the hope of curing the
spiritual corruption that has enveloped the human spirit. The tenets of The
Truth of the Way of the Lumière Infinie are spelled out in detail on
this web site by the author. Violent acts against individuals due to their
religious beliefs in America is considered a "hate crime."
This web site
in no way condones violence. To the contrary the intent here is to reduce the
violence that is already occurring due to the international corporate cartels
desire to control the human race. The international corporate cartel already
controls the world economic system, corporate media worldwide, the global
industrial military entertainment complex and is responsible for the collapse
of morals, the elevation of self-centered behavior and the destruction of
global ecosystems. Civilization is based on cooperation. Cooperation does not
occur at the point of a gun.
American social mores and values have
declined precipitously over the last century as the corrupt international
cartel has garnered more and more power. This power rests in the ability to
deceive the populace in general through corporate media by pressing emotional
buttons which have been preprogrammed into the population through prior
corporate media psychological operations. The results have been the destruction
of the family and the destruction of social structures that do not adhere to
the corrupt international elites vision of a perfect world. Through distraction
and coercion the direction of thought of the bulk of the population has been
directed toward solutions proposed by the corrupt international elite that
further consolidates their power and which further their purposes.
views and opinions presented on this web site are the views and opinions of
individual human men and women that, through their writings, showed the
capacity for intelligent, reasonable, rational, insightful and unpopular
thought. All factual information presented on this web site is believed to be
true and accurate and is presented as originally presented in print media which
may or may not have originally presented the facts truthfully. Opinion and
thoughts have been adapted, edited, corrected, redacted, combined, added to,
re-edited and re-corrected as nearly all opinion and thought has been
throughout time but has been done so in the spirit of the original writer with
the intent of making his or her thoughts and opinions clearer and relevant to
the reader in the present time.
Fair Use Notice
This site may contain copyrighted material the use of which has
not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making
such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of criminal
justice, human rights, political, economic, democratic, scientific, and social
justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such
copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In
accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is
distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in
receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For
more information see: www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to
use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond
'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.
© Lawrence Turner
All Rights Reserved