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John Wimber

John Wimber

1947 Fuller Theological Seminary founded by Charles E. Fuller, a well-known radio neoevangelist, Harold Ockenga, pastor of Park Street Church in Boston, Carl F. H. Henry, Wilbur Moorehead Smith and Harold Lindsell.

Fuller Theological Seminary is the first neoEvangelic seminary.

Marrying the study of religion with that of psychology Fuller Theological Seminary is hoping of expand the reach of the neoEvangelic order.

John Wimber a professional musician, talented keyboardist and vocalist is manager of the Righteous Brothers before becoming "born again."

1963 - 1974 John Wimber practices intense personal evangelism as a Quaker in meetings with friends.

1974 John Wimber leaves Yorba Linda Friends Church to become founder of the Department of Church Growth at the Fuller Theological Seminary.

1977 John Wimber Bible study fellowships becomes Calvary Chapel.

1980 Lonnie Frisbie says, "Come Holy Spirit" at Calvary Chapel.

John Wimber's interest escalates after the exhibitions of Lonnie Frisbie.

1982 John Wimber and C. Peter Wagner launch their controversial course, MC510 - "The Miraculous and Church Growth" at Fuller Theological.

This course includes hands on training in miraculous exhibitions.

Charismatic movement teaching of subjective truth is rejected by Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel.

John Wimber renames his fellowship the Vineyard Association.

John Wimber meets Paul Cain for the first time.

Paul Cain predicts his coming to and going from a meeting with John Wimber would be confirmed by earthquakes, which did indeed occur.

(In California between 1988-1997 earthquakes occurred at the rate of 37,283 per year; 3,107 per month; 714 per week and 102 per day.)

John Wimber is con-vinced the only way to get people to believe the Word of God is to 'shock and awe' them into believing in "supernatural power."

A very intense ministry circuit partnership between John Wimber and the Kansas City "prophets" culminates in the Kansas City fellowship becoming an official Vineyard Association church, a non-profit 501c3 institution.

John Wimber publicly calls for every Vineyard pastor to be ministered to by the Kansas City "prophets".

On a trip to Scotland Mike Bickle convinces John Wimber to change emphasis of the Vineyard to that of a prophetic ministry.

Latter Rain/Manifest Sons dogma "cross-pollinates" the Vineyard.

Shepherds complain prophets are changing the core values of the Vineyard.

John Wimber emphasizes healing, spiritual warfare, and prophecies.

Mike Bickle commits Kansas City fellowships to the Vineyard Association.

Mike Bickle parts ways with John Wimber over Toronto fall out taking Kansas City out of the Vineyard to become Metro Christian fellowship.

The hyper-charismatic Vineyard movement grew to approximately 450 US congregations and 250 more in other countries at its largest.

John Wimber cited Kenneth Hagin, father of the Word of Faith movement, mentor of Kenneth Copeland and disciple of Essek William Kenyon.



Lonnie Frisbee

Lonnie Frisbee


Chuck Smith claims a slightly built, long-haired Jesus freak named Lonnie Frisbee brought the first ragtag fellowship of seekers to a Bible study.

"The back door opened and all these kids with long hair and bells on their jeans came in and sat down." - Chuck Smith

"I can remember the shocked expressions on the faces of the other people when Chuck Smith calls Lonnie Frisbee the first neoevangelist of the Jesus Movement." - Charisma magazine

Lonnie Frisbee, hippie Charismatic Pentecostalist, packs Chuck Smith's fellowship with so many 'hippies' that a large circus tent has to be pitched on a 10-acre plot of land where Calvary Chapel is now located in Costa Mesa.

Chuck Smith is struck by Lonnie Frisbee's charisma, "I was not at all prepared for the compassion that this young man would radiate."

Lonnie Frisbee sparks Chuck Smith's Calvary Chapel revival.

"When the Lord called me, I was going into the desert and I was taking all my clothes off and I was going ' Lord if You're really real, reveal Yourself to me!' And one afternoon, the whole atmosphere of this canyon I was in started to tingle and get light and started to change and I was going 'Uh-oh!' I didn't want to be there!" - Lonnie Frisbee

Lonnie Frisbee's religious career began with a pilgrimage of friends to Tahquitz Canyon outside Palm Springs.


"So we drove out to Tahquitz Falls and we hiked up to the very top falls.

Once he got there, he opened his back pack and spread out LSD, marijuana, oil paints and togas, and he told us to put on togas, so we did.

He proceeded to paint a full-sized image of Jesus on the rock.

Then he pulled out his Bible and he got into a kinda yoga position.

"We're gonna read the Bible now."

He read John the Baptist and baptized us at Tahquitz Falls." - Judy Meston


Kathryn Johanna Kuhlman was born again at the age of 14 in the Methodist Church of Concordia, began planting fellowships at the age of 15.

Kathryn Johanna Kuhlman, an adulteress, lived a flamboyant lifestyle with expensive clothes, precious jewels, luxury hotels and first-class travel while her "Healing Revival" employees worked at starvation wages.

Kathryn Johanna Kuhlman had a weekly television program in the 1960s and 1970s which aired nationally titled I Believe In Miracles.

Kathryn Johanna Kuhlman introduced Slain in the Spirit.

Kathryn Johanna Kuhlman used the connotation of ego death as the experience of being Slain in the Spirit - a spirit expanding experience.

YouTube - Lonnie Frisbee interviewed by Kathryn Johanna Kuhlman.

"Lonnie must have fixed this one particular room up. There were candles lit and everything. The room filled up with people and we had taken some LSD and he was reading the Gospel of John out loud, and we're goin' through the whole gospel. We get to the end of it, it's the crucifixion stuff, everybody's crying, you know, and not one person left the room. And then it was over. Lonnie was a planner of experiences." - Connie (Frisbee) Bremer-Murray

Lonnie Frisbee mentored Greg Laurie who established Harvest Christian Fellowship in 1973.

Lonnie Frisbee's focus on gaining converts and experiencing "supernatural manifestations caused disagreement within Calvary Chapel.

Lonnie Frisbee seeks out "supernatural manifestations" which Benny Hinn and Kenneth Copeland attribute as an "anointing" by the Holy Spirit.

The fellowship of John Wimber embraces Lonnie Frisbee to heal him.

Lonnie Frisbee confuses John Wimber.

John Wimber and Lonnie Frisbee leave Calvary Chapel and found the Vineyard Association.


"Lonnie Frisbee asked people 25 and under to come forward.

Probably 300 or so go forward.

He just says the words 'Holy Spirit, Come'.

Almost immediately, everybody just fell on the floor.

They were sort of like trees in a forest falling on each other.

It wasn't a clean thing.

One kid, Ricky, when he fell to the floor, pulled the microphone down.

A lot of them started Speaking in Tongues, others were crying.

The sound was shocking and I didn't know what to do.

I stared at this thing.

I didn't know Lonnie.

John was shocked.

John was trying to figure out what was going on.

A lot of people got up and left." - Bob Fulton, Vineyard leader


"Though little credit is given to Lonnie Frisbee, he was influential in what the Vineyard movement called "Signs and Wonders" – a model of teaching that suggest that all Christians could operate in a similar manner as Lonnie Frisbee; that they too could perform miracles like they'd read in the New Testament." - DiSabatino


"At the end of the marriage he told me that he had been staying late in some gay bars." - Connie Bremer-Murray, Lonnie Frisbee's ex-wife


"I got a telephone call one day that this young man who was in the church here at Laguna Beach really guilty and he confided in his pastor that he had had a six-month affair with Lonnie." - Chuck Smith, Jr.


"It was many years I didn't see Lonnie, and when I did the thing I was most impressed by was, 'cuz you're going for the truth here, how bitter he was.

Lonnie would just come in and he didn't have personal restraint.

Lonnie would just go off on how he had been used and abused and trashed.

You know, kind of pathetic in a way." - Chuck Girard


Lonnie Frisbee claimed he had been sexually abused as a child.

Lonnie Frisbee dies of AIDS.

"If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination." - Leviticus 20:13

"Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of error which was due." - Romans 1:27

"No one who lives deeply in Christ makes a practice of sin. Those who continue to sin have neither seen Christ nor known Christ." - 1 John 3:6

"The Bible does not allow for simultaneous coexistent realities.

Saints still sin but the Bible clearly teaches they do not sin as a lifestyle." - Steve Mitchell Power



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